The Deal · Episode · Founder Declined

Shipley Do-Nuts: Why Sam Turned Down a $200K Offer for His Bastrop Buildout

Sam owns multiple restaurants and bought his Austin Shipley Do-Nuts franchise in 2022 for $800,000. Two years later it does $1.2M a year at a 25% net margin. On camera, Founderpath offered $200,000 for 33% of his next franchise in Bastrop. Sam politely declined — he had already self-funded the new build with cash and zero debt.

$1.2M

Annual Revenue (Austin store)

25%

Net Margin

$200K

Annual Profit

3,500

Donuts Per Day (weekends)

Deal Snapshot

The full picture: who Sam is, what the Austin store does, the Bastrop expansion plan, and why Founderpath’s $200K offer didn’t close.

The business

Business

Shipley Do-Nuts (Austin franchise)

Owner

Sam

Location

Austin, Texas (this store) · Bastrop, TX (new store)

Franchise system

Shipley Do-Nuts · 375+ stores nationwide

First store opened

2017 (different Austin location)

This store acquired

2022 (purchased at 1x revenue · $800K)

Annual revenue (this store, 2024)

$1.2M

Net margin

25% (after labor, food, rent, royalty)

Annual profit (this store)

$200,000

Year-over-year growth

6–10% per store

Daily donut output

3,000–4,000 (weekends)

Monthly rent

$6,000

Franchise royalty

5% of gross sales

Equity ownership

100% founder-owned · No outside investors · No debt

The expansion

New project

Open a new Shipley franchise in Bastrop, TX

Total project cost

$600,000

Year-1 projected revenue

$600,000–$800,000

Founder cash already committed

100% self-funded · construction in progress

Outside capital needed

None — Sam is fully funded

The offer (declined)

Founderpath offer

$200,000 for 33% of Bastrop LLC

Structure proposed

Equity (Sam preferred equity over debt)

Path to return

Distributed profits + sale at 1x annual revenue (5x EBITDA)

Outcome

Founder declined — already self-funded, no debt, no need for capital

Why This Deal Didn’t Close

A great founder, a great unit economic model, and a fair offer that didn’t match the moment. Here’s the honest breakdown of why a $200,000 equity check for the Bastrop location wasn’t the right deal for Sam.

The founder didn’t need outside capital

Sam already owned multiple restaurants and had self-funded every previous Shipley buildout. By the time Nathan made the $200,000 offer, the Bastrop construction was already underway with 100% of the funding committed and zero debt on the project. There was no capital gap to close.

Equity was the wrong instrument for a self-funded operator

Equity makes sense when the cash unlocks something the founder can’t do on their own. Sam can write the $600,000 check himself. Selling 33% of a fully-funded location for $200,000 would have given up the upside without solving any real problem.

The exit assumption didn’t fit the operator

Equity returns work when the business sells. Sam was clear: he plans to operate these donut shops indefinitely and pass them down or sell when he chooses. A 5-year equity hold against an undefined exit makes the IRR math hard for any capital partner.

Why Founderpath shared the offer anyway

Strong free cash flow, durable brand, repeatable buildout cost, and a disciplined operator are exactly the profile Founderpath funds with debt — not equity. If Sam ever wants to compress his capital cycle and open multiple Shipley locations in parallel, term debt against existing store cash flow is a far better fit than equity in a single LLC.

The Founderpath product that would have fit

Operators like Sam — multiple cash-flowing units, predictable buildout cost, durable franchise system — typically fit a term loan against existing store cash flow. That lets the operator open three or four locations in parallel without giving up equity in any of them. Founderpath funds new location buildouts from $50K to $5M.

New location buildout financing for franchise operators →
For franchise and multi-unit operators

Could YOUR Business Get a Deal Like This?

Founderpath funds franchise operators and multi-unit brick-and-mortar businesses with non-dilutive capital from $50K to $5M — for new location buildouts, equipment, inventory, and working capital. Here’s the bar we underwrite against.

  • Annual revenue per unit

    $250,000+ (Sam’s Austin store runs $1.2M)

  • Operating history

    12+ months of trailing financials at one or more units

  • Unit economics

    Healthy net margin (15%+) — Sam’s store nets 25%

  • Use of funds

    Specific and time-bound: new location, equipment, refinance, working capital

  • Data we connect

    POS, bank, and accounting data — not a multi-month diligence process

  • Equity given up

    Zero. Always.

What Founderpath Looks For

The Shipley Do-Nuts deal didn’t close — but the underwriting frame for franchise and multi-unit operators is exactly what we look for in every brick-and-mortar deal.

  1. 01

    Self-funded operators are the highest-quality borrowers — and the hardest to win

    Sam already had multiple cash-flowing restaurants and the discipline to fund every Shipley buildout out of pocket. That’s the exact profile a debt provider underwrites against. The catch is that operators with this much cash discipline rarely need outside capital — capital partners win them by being faster, cheaper, and less invasive than a traditional bank.

  2. 02

    Equity in a single LLC is the wrong instrument when the operator can self-fund

    Equity makes sense when capital unlocks something the founder can’t do alone. If Sam can write the $600,000 buildout check, selling 33% of the new LLC for $200,000 just compresses his upside without solving a problem. Term debt against existing store cash flow would have given him three locations in parallel without giving up equity.

  3. 03

    Buying an existing franchise at 1x revenue is a real edge

    Sam acquired this Austin store for $800,000 when it was doing $800,000 in revenue. Two years later it does $1.2M at a 25% net margin. That’s the model — buy proven cash flow at a clean multiple, then operate it harder than the previous owner. Recognizing those acquisition windows is a separate skill from operating a single store.

  4. 04

    Franchise systems give you a known cost structure to model

    Sam laid it out without hesitating: 35% labor, 25% food, 15% rent and operations, 5% royalty — leaving roughly 25% to the bottom line. That kind of clean cost structure is exactly what makes franchise debt underwritable. A capital partner can model the new unit before it opens because the system has 375 stores of data behind it.

  5. 05

    Don’t pitch equity to a founder who plans to operate forever

    Sam said his preference was equity, but only because he was thinking about a future sale. As the conversation went deeper, it became clear he plans to operate these donut shops for decades. For an operator with that horizon, equity is a poor structure — there’s no clean exit. Debt with a fixed cost of capital fits a multi-decade operator far better.

Frequently Asked Questions

The Shipley Do-Nuts deal, and why it didn’t close.

Nathan offered $200,000 in exchange for 33% equity in the new Bastrop, TX Shipley franchise LLC. The structure included annual profit distributions and a 4-to-6x EBITDA exit assumption (roughly 1x annual revenue at sale).

Sam had already self-funded the Bastrop buildout in full. Construction was already underway with 100% of the funding committed and zero debt. He didn’t need outside capital to open the new location.

Sam’s Austin store does roughly $1.2 million in annual revenue and nets approximately 25% — about $200,000 of profit. Cost structure: 35% labor, 25% food, 15% rent and operations, 5% franchise royalty.

About $500,000 to $600,000 in 2017 for Sam’s first store, with subsequent locations in a similar range. The Bastrop location cost approximately $600,000.

Equity unlocks growth a founder can’t fund alone. Sam already had the cash to open multiple stores. Selling 33% of a single fully-funded location for $200,000 compresses his upside without solving any real problem. Debt against existing store cash flow would let him open three stores in parallel without giving up equity in any of them.

Yes. A multi-unit franchise operator with 25% net margins and durable cash flow is exactly the profile Founderpath underwrites with term debt. A debt facility against the existing Austin store could have funded multiple new locations in parallel without diluting any unit.

Founderpath connects to POS, bank, and accounting data and underwrites the business in 24 to 48 hours. For franchise operators, the existing system data (cost structure, sales velocity, labor ratios) makes the new unit highly modelable before it opens.

Yes — if the operator has at least $250,000 in annual revenue per unit, 12 or more months of operating history, healthy net margins, and a specific use of funds tied to growth. Founderpath funds franchise and multi-unit brick-and-mortar operators from $50K to $5M.

Full Episode Transcript

Every word from the conversation between Nathan and Sam.

Nathan: We are here at Shipley Do-Nuts. I do know it’s a franchise model. What did it cost you in 2017 just to buy the rights to the franchise? Sam: Half a million. Nathan: Half a million. Sam, that’s not cheap. So, do you break a million in your second year? Sam: Yes. Let’s go. Sam: We grow probably average about 6 to 10% every year. Nathan: Doughnut shops are obviously notoriously high margin businesses, right? Because effectively it’s just bread and a lot of sweet icing and then a sale. $3, $4, $5 donut. And what would you do last year at this location? Sam: Last year we’re doing 1.2. Nathan: Okay. Are you happy with that? They do enough revenue and there’s a clear expansion plan. I’ll write a check on the spot. Nathan: Hi, I’m Nathan. Sam: How’s it going, sir? Nathan: You’re Sam, right? Sam: Yes, sir. Nathan: Are you the owner? Did you come up with this idea yourself? What is this place? Sam: So, this is a franchise concept. With Shipley Do-Nuts, they have about 375 stores across the nation. Nathan: We’d love to learn more about the business. Can we come back and show us how a donut is made? Sam: All right, let’s go, guys. We’re going to go back here in the back room. Sam: This is a lot of equipment. So let me start you from the beginning. The bakers get here at 2:00 in the morning. They start mixing the dough and they go to the cutting table and then when the dough is ready, they put them in here. Cut donuts like whatever the shape is. And then once they’re ready, they go to the fryer right here. Flip it. And then we come out with this. Either they go to the icing. Nathan: Are these your most popular icing? Sam: We have white iced, maple, chocolate, strawberry, and cherry. Nathan: How many donuts do you make on a weekly basis through all these machinery? Sam: Weekends, we probably make like 3 to 4,000 donuts a day. Nathan: 3 to 4,000 donuts a day. That’s incredible. So, did you always know you wanted a doughnut franchise or were you just looking for any kind of franchise? Sam: I got five kids. They all love donuts. So, they will eat couple boxes every morning. So I tell my wife, “Why don’t we just go open a donut shop like that?” So we start looking at Shipley because that’s the donut that we all like. And then we open our first store in 2017. Nathan: What did it cost you in 2017 just to buy the rights to the franchise, pay for all this equipment and machinery? What was just the all-in cost to get going? Sam: Half a million. Nathan: Half a million. Sam, that’s not cheap. Are you like a wealthy tech executive or something? Where did you get all this money from? Sam: I got different restaurants. So I own a couple of other restaurants in town. Nathan: So you spent the 500K in 2017 to get you to your first location. Do you remember how much revenue you did that first year in 2017? Sam: The first year was almost 800,000. Nathan: Wow. Is that above what you expected or below? Sam: It’s in the middle. A good thing about this is we see the number continue going up. Nathan: What was the second year? Sam: So the second year we grow probably like 10 to 15%. Nathan: So do you break a million in your second year? Sam: Yes. Nathan: Let’s go. That’s awesome. Sam: Yeah. And currently that store is doing about 1.2, 1.3 million a year. Nathan: And is that this Shipley or a different Shipley? Sam: It’s a different Shipley. Nathan: Okay. So that one’s doing 1.3 million. And what year did you open the one we’re standing in right now? Sam: We bought this store in 2022. Nathan: How much revenue was this location doing the year before you took it over? Sam: 800,000 a year in 2022. Nathan: And what did you do last year? Sam: Last year we’re doing 1.2. Sam: Yep. We got our money back. Nathan: So, what did you buy it for when it was doing 800 grand? Sam: 800,000. Nathan: Oh, so 1x annual revenue. Is it profitable? Sam: Yes. Nathan: How much would it make on 800? Sam: It usually about 25%. Nathan: Wow. So 200,000 to the bottom line on 800K of total sales. Nathan: What will you do this year in 2025? Sam: We project then to be the same as last year. Nathan: Okay. Well, you’re an entrepreneur. You like growth. Why are you projecting flat? Sam: Because in calming the way that they’re running right now, we project them to be a little bit lesser. We don’t want to be too aggressive. Nathan: So which one’s your best seller? Sam: This is a glazed donut. In the morning between 5:00 to 10:30, we sell hot glaze. Nathan: Hot glaze meaning the glaze is the donut is still hot. Sam: Right. Nathan: So I see up there it says donuts $1.35. Obviously you have employees. What are the other costs? Sam: Employee cost us about 35%. Nathan: So we have 100% of your revenue minus 35% for employees. Sam: Food cost is about 25%. Nathan: 25% food cost. So what else? Sam: It’s about 15% of them will be rent and the operation cost. Nathan: So you have rent in this location? Sam: Yes. This one is cheap. It’s about $6,000. Nathan: 6,000 a month. Yeah. Okay. That’s not too bad. What do you have to pay Shipley corporate on every $1.35 glazed donut you sell? Sam: 5%. Nathan: 5% of all sales. Sam: Okay. Nathan: Got it. So if you’re going to do, you know, a million dollars a year in revenue, you’re kicking back $50,000 a year to Shipley. Sam: But you’re still taking another 150 to 170,000 just to the bottom line as profit. Sam: We’re still profiting probably like $200,000 a year. Nathan: That’s great. Where do you reinvest the money? Sam: We reinvest. We open new stores. Nathan: What do you open as an entrepreneur? How do you think about reinvesting? Sam: Next year, we’re going to open another store. Nathan: Another Shipley? Sam: Yes, we are opening another one in Bastrop. Nathan: So, Sam, when I think about investing in local entrepreneurs and local shops, my first question is always, what’s the structure of the deal? Should it be equity or debt? Do you have a strong preference? Sam: Right. Equity is a great opportunity if you think you’re going to build these over time to maybe sell them off. Nathan: Which path do you think you’ll go? Sam: We prefer to do the equity so that way we can sell them and stuff like that. Because my kids nowadays, you can’t really pass on anything to them. Nathan: Why? Sam: Most of the time the kids don’t want to follow the parents’ footstep, right? They eat too many donuts and get tired of the donuts. Nathan: So the kids don’t want to be in the family business. Sam: Not if they don’t have to. Nathan: Fair, that’s a good answer. All right, so you prefer an equity deal. Now I know nothing about valuing a donut shop. Let’s say we build this location together, I put in some money, you put in some money, and we sell it in 5 years. How is the buyer likely to value the business? Sam: Shipley would sell about five times annual gross income. Nathan: Okay. Sam: Let’s say this store is making $250,000. Nathan: Five times of them would be 1.25. Sam: 1.25. Nathan: So we should factor in our pro forma. If we open the Bastrop location, we spend 600,000 bucks. We should factor in the first year doing between 600 and $800,000 of revenue. And then as we take that forward in our Excel file, project a 6 to 10% year-over-year growth rate. So 600,000 to 660,000 to 720,000 to 790,000. Are you good with that? Sam: Sort of like this, right? Yeah. Nathan: I’m trying to sell myself to you because I want a piece of this business, right? What I like to do when I do an equity deal is I want to see a clear path to doubling my money in 3 to 5 years. So, and because you’re rich, I want you to take the biggest investment in the new location. But if I put up 100 or 200K and we grew the revenue from 500 to 600K up to 1.2 million over a 4-year period, our equity would double in that period because someone would pay 1x the 1.2 million. Sam: Yes. And plus you get all the money back at the time. The great thing about it is operating money cash flow business. Nathan: So you would distribute? If I made you an offer for 25% of the Bastrop location, at the end of the year you’d own 75%, I’d own 25%. You would distribute me 25 cents of the profits and you 75. Sam: Interesting. So that makes my return even better. Nathan: Yeah. Your return would be probably 200% at the time we sell. Maybe at that time you probably don’t even want to sell because it’s cash flowing. It’s just generally in the money every year. Nathan: Sam, I want to make you an offer. So here’s what I want to offer. It’s 600,000 bucks to open a new location. I want to offer to put in $200,000 for 33% of the business — 200 of the 600. You put up the other 400 and we grow it together. You pay out the dividends each year if there are profits. But then at the end, we’re focused on growing it together so we can sell for 4 to 6x EBITDA, which would be usually about 1x top line based off the ratios. Sam, do you like an offer of $200,000 for 33% of the business for opening the Bastrop location? Sam: For the Bastrop location? We already fund it. We already have it. Nathan: This guy doesn’t need my money. Sam: We don’t. We already in a construction stage. We already have 100% of our funding. Nathan: And there’s no debt. Sam: There’s no debt. Nathan: No debt. You’re a wealthy successful entrepreneur. You don’t need anyone else’s money. I love finding partnerships where I can also help. You really don’t need my money. Do you typically finance it all 100% with your own money or do you use debt and banks? Sam: Usually I just finance myself. I just fund them myself. Nathan: This is a great entrepreneur, a local entrepreneur really doing well with brick and mortar. Sam, thank you so much for sharing more about the business. Congratulations on what you built. Sam: Thank you, sir. Nathan: All right, let me shake your hand here. I appreciate you. Thanks, Sam. Nathan: Now, Sam’s got big plans and he doesn’t need me. He has so much cash flow, but maybe you and I can work together. If you’re looking for capital, go to founderpath.com and create an account for free. Then, connect your profit and loss statement so I can understand your cash flows and revenue. Then my AI agent will write a 10-page memo for you, all in under two minutes, and it will include a capital offer at the end. If you like the offer, just type yes in the chat. Tell me what bank you want us to wire the money to, and we’ll get a deal done together. I’ll see you over at founderpath.com.