Um once you once you deal with um once you deal with um retailer or a brand and you don't succeed, everybody else knows. The second hiccup we had was Neiman Marcus. So, think about this for a second. Just imagine, you're collecting data from all these retailers, right? Um nobody has agreement with you. The retailers do not know you're collecting these data this data on behalf of the brands.
And all of a sudden, we get a call, not a call, we get a letter uh from Neiman Marcus cease and desist. Okay, what's going on? They're saying you're collecting our self-through numbers, you're giving it to the brands, we're doing that also. Why are they using you and paying you rather than the Neiman ours? The first thing obviously you can imagine, we had about maybe four, five customer, maybe 10 customers by then. Uh and cease and
desist, knocking off Neiman Marcus would be a big impact on our business. So, luckily, 3 weeks before this love letter, um I met I met with the CEO at the time, his name is Jim Gold. Uh not I did not meet him. He presented and I was sitting all the way in the back somewhere. Uh not really shook his hand or anything. And he presented something about quality and integrity and yada yada yada. Um so, I I wrote him a letter. Remember
those, you know, you don't not an email, a letter. Um for those of you who remember how to write letters. So, I wrote him a letter and I sent it through the mail to him. And I told him, "Look, this is what we do. Uh I I heard your speech on the integrity and and um the your company has and I was so excited and we do the same thing in our business, yada yada yada." He did not know what to make of that letter. So, he said, "Uh why don't we turn it to your" I I called him up after
that, follow up. Um not once, not twice. Three times, four times. On the fifth time, he picked up. Um and I told him again what we do and so on. And Jay, Jay, real quick. Can we spice I'm to your left in the back. Can I spice this up for a second? How big was the season I mean, did they threaten you? Like how big was the lawsuit? The lawsuit was basically if you don't stop collecting data from us, we're going to we're going to we're going to hit you with a million dollar fine. A million dollars for a company doing that's
my month. I can handle it. Yeah. Well, not really. When we're doing $25 million in MRR, I'm not sure how we can afford it. So, Nima Marcus you know, Nima Marcus was the the hiccup we had, but we turned that to an opportunity. After the conversation, he did not know what I did not know exactly what we do. He didn't understand what we do, and he turned me to the CIO. Okay? So, we had a conversation to Sarah. Forget the last name. Sarah, we had a
conversation with her. She said, "Okay, if you're collecting data and the brands are happy with it, why don't we sign an NDA with you?" So, NDA sounds good. Let's get the NDA on board. We got the NDA, we signed the NDA, we collected, we continued to collecting data from them. And then I said, "Wait a second. Why don't we get together?" I mean, you're in Dallas, we're in New York. It's only a plane away. We got together with them. We met with them. We had a conversation, a beautiful conversation with a senior merchandising manager who's still in place right now.
He was a great friend of mine. And he he in the middle of the conversation he said, "Why don't you just take all the distribution to our suppliers?" I was I was like you stunned. Take all the distribution to us. What am I going to do with all the distribution? And they know our model was all about the brands, not about the retailer. So, he says, "Yeah, take the distri- take the data distribution. We'll give it to you one feed, and you give it to all the all the others."
I said, "Okay. Uh exclusive?" I mean, that was a little chutzpah on my part. Uh he looked at me and said, "You're from New York, aren't you?" I said, "Yes, I am." Um it's a non non-exclusive. We have another vendor that does that, and they're doing Yeah, it's also job, but we want to bring another vendor, another supplier, another partner into the fold. So, we said, "Okay, we'll take that." We put a program together. Some of it was freemium for those who just want Excel spreadsheet, you know, weekly report of their sell-through. For
others, we actually developed a map. Those are the premiums. Those are paying customers. Fast forward from a problem from a cease and desist desist letter, we developed an app for the retailer. Okay? And that resulted in an increase of about 54% in our MRR. You'll see it later on. Yeah. Because you have to remember, all the Neiman Marcus customers that want their sell-through data has to go through us or the other vendor. So, initially it
was 5% us, 95% them. It 10%. Today, I'm happy to say we're actually managing 92% of Neiman Marcus vendors on our platform. Okay? So, that story actually evolved because then Saks Fifth Avenue heard about it, met with Mark Metrick, the CEO. We had one meeting, and that meeting he said, "Send me the contract." Have you ever had that before? That was my By the way, that was my only time. Um so, we got we got the contracts